Spirelord wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:53 am
Spirelord wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:09 am
Spirelord wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:39 pm
Has the table been updated for the newest hotfix? I keep attempting to edit Ability Points and the game either crashes or the save profile isn't changed at all.
I have been diligently following the instructions to save a game, wait for the cheat engine to populate, edit the ability points values, then re-save the game and load it to check if it worked. (As per 0xa08ab242's detailed post)
I have issues at every step of this process and it makes it very convoluted and impossible to operate.
More than half the time, after saving a game to populate the cheat engine, I just get random garbage strings of letters and numbers for all the values. Maybe 1/10 times, the cheat engine populates correctly. Then, I edit the values to what I want.
More than half the time after editing the values to what I want, I re-save the game and load it, only to discover that nothing changed at all. The other half of the time, the game crashes and I have to restart this all over again.
It's been 4 hours of me attempting this one change, on two separate savegames, and nothing works. The game either crashes when I try to load the re-save, or the cheat engine doesn't alter any values.
I used this exact process yesterday on a 3rd save and it worked perfectly fine. Is the issue today due to the hotfix Larian put out? If so, will this table get updated or does it require an update? Because right now it either doesn't work or crashes at each attempt and this has only occurred today.
Any help on this at all? It's been 2 hours later and I still cannot get this to work. The list never populates correctly 8/10 times. When it
does populate correctly, changing the values and saving the game does
nothing. The savegame that is supposed to have been altered is not altered. Half the time the game just crashes when checking this also (by loading the altered savegame), and loading the save after the crash doesn't show any changes either.
I'm not sure what to do. Is there another way to use this tool to edit ability points? Is there a way to do it via the console command cheat, changing hex values directly, or something else?
This is STILL Not working. I'm reloading the cheat engine table until saving the bg3 game finally populates the cheat engine table correctly. Then I edit the stats, re-save, and reload. My game reloads to show exactly no changes at all, when the game doesn't crash after.
I have done this again and again exactly as the steps say: save a game to populate, change values, save again, load the saved game. Every time it does not change anything. I can't be the only one having this issue all day?
My first bit of advice is "slow down." We're all friends here playing a game in our spare time; those of us feel like helping do this because we enjoy it.
However, please remember that this isn't a drive-thru or on-demand consultancy. I get how frustrating the situation can be from your point of view; I had to relearn the process after not having used Cheat Engine for years. I hope that my attempts to help are successful.
Onto your specific issue, I have not had those exact symptoms, but I have seen something close. To start, I happened to edit some characters today, and I was able to edit characters on the current version using the latest table as well as the two preceding ones while on the latest game patch, so the answer to your question if the hotfix or the cheat table is broken is "no."
I suspect that that is only going to be more frustrating, since from your point of view you have tried doing everything you should. To that end, let me try to help with restating some guidelines to try to reduce the possiblities leading to your symptoms.
The only time I saw anything close to what you described was trying to edit characters while in the camp OR when trying to do too many things at the same time. This is why in my long version of instructions (back on page 122) I said to leave camp, before the initial save step and I said to not multitask.
Back to my earlier advice, it applies here as well. We are attempting to edit in-memory values of a complex state machine, which is a lot easier when starting from a known state. So, going back to the steps I wrote, from the very top (I won't write them all out again, but I will highlight a few potentially relevant bits)...
...begin by closing out of everything, and when you retry them, be extra careful to minimize your clicks in the BG3 UI.
Open the map, fast travel somewhere away from the camp - the more isolated the better.
Crank up Cheat Engine, load the table, attach the process, click the top-level stat editor
alt-tab back to BG3, click menu > save
alt-tab back to Cheat Engine and WAIT for the save to complete - seriously do nothing while you wait.
After a few seconds, the save operation should complete and the character list should populate. I usually see the table populate BEFORE the message indicating the same has completed appears. Did it work?
- If not, where were in the game? (if at camp, fast travel somewhere else, if it is busy location, fast travel somewhere desolate) and try elsewhere
- Who is in your party? (I haven't tried with all the companions yet, have you expanded the party to include more than 4 companions) try with fewer
- Are you running any mods? (I only run vanilla, and I declared the assumption the steps I wrote predicated on no-mods)
- Does your main character have a really long name? (this should only affect that one character, but who knows)
- If it looks like it is working so far...
Go slow, edit one stat at a time, AND do NOT click in the BG3 window until you are ready to save, THEN ONLY click menu > save.
Assuming you made it this far without a crash (or anything else unexpected), and if you are doing multiple characters...
..,you can try to edit the second character before you do the load operation, but I would recommend saving (and waiting for the table to repopulate) after each character.
If you are doing a load between each character, you need to do a save operation before you attempt the edit the next character.
If the process fails, and you'd like more specific help, please provide more details of how and when it fails.
If someone else doesn't reply before I do, then I will try to help as free time permits.
Either way, I am genuinely curious if that resolves the issue, or at least gets you close enough to be able to spend more time playing the game than fighting the tools that are intended to help make it more enjoyable.