STN wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:49 am
I wouldn't go as far as saying he ripped my work.. but that nudge of inspiration he's taking out of my tables, out of the many explanations I give on this forum, out of the many detailed tutorials, pictures with arrows and highlights.. man, that really must be something he can't even acknowledge. But then again, many online think like this: if it's public, it doesn't have an owner; so it's free to use.
A buddy of mine told me that once you include something that isn't yours in your work, it's only a matter of time before it becomes yours T_T. You will act like it was your shit all along and dismiss anything or anyone claiming the opposite.
Pretty much like what's happening here: the semantics of stealing/ripping. Some hook spots are dead obvious (obtained via direct debugging and applied on that specific read/write spot). No one can complain 2-3 people hooked the same spot; it's there, can be explained and so on. Then some aren't. And because the public has this retarded mentality that stealing
means only 1:1 copy of someone's work, you get away with simply moving the injection spot up/down in the code -OR- like Caliber did, put a big fat RET at the ONLY FUNCTION running the Swarm Drone Anvil script in which I patched a jump. No one will call that stealing, cuz it's not 1:1.. right? But the fact that you take out the table, inspect it, debug that spot in the script, make your own deductions, then say "hey, I understand now how it works, so it can be mine; why not?" -- no one calls that stealing T_T Cuz that's how narrow-minded this Caliber thinks the community is; we're all stupid and can't read through the lines, while his defense is always the invoking of dodgy semantics.
Then there's a shitload of other things he invoked and twisted, just to prove that if you get accused of something, the simplest method out there is to say the exact same thing about the person calling you out. All this diversion expresses some internal struggle he's having, else we wouldn't be seeing walls of text. That coming from a person who gives a fuck about FRF; who says he "doesn't care" about this and that.. but when it comes to him or his ego, he jumps on the horse and schools us. I fail to understand to this day why a person would continue to pop every now and then on a forum they despise, which brings nothing to them but venting. Perhaps it's his way of relaxing after those 238971293712 titles he trains a day.
Long story short: Caliber creates trainers as a way of living. It's a job
. And since it's a job, he's compelled at times to take "shortcuts", just to satisfy the various requests, asking for this and that. At which point comes this "inspiration" that he -- let's say 'rarely', but does it -- includes in his trainers without asking for permission or simple crediting. There's no shame in crediting others. But when you want this community -- which, by his words, doesn't know anything about you -- to know about you, you have to show them you're self-sufficient and you can't and won't depend on anyone else. SAID NO FUCKING HUMAN BEING EVER T_T. Flipping the coin, most of the table/content makers here do this as a hobby
. By its mere definition, a hobby implies doing something you like, out of and with passion. And that's what births QUALITY. That's what allows you to take your time and rip shit apart and come up with unique options and also teach others in the process. I've yet to see a multitude of such posts from Caliber. He will say he posted something once or twice just to shut me up (sign that he does teach the public), but put under scrutiny, you'll see how much that is a tutorial in itself (go to address X, do this, that, you bypassed; come another update, you won't be able to reproduce it, cuz that "address X" won't work in your version...). And then he'll invoke "not having time" to post this much. Yet, when it's about him, he has time to write walls of text. Who are we to tell him what to do with his time, right? Well.. we can't. But we can say "fuck you" when he starts boasting how much he contributes to FRF...
Trust below sea level? Talking outta his ass. A respectable business model like C H would have you sign an NDA (non-disclosure agreement). By that alone, you're disallowed to post publicly information regarding C H proprietary content. Else you get sued. So.. what 'trust below sea level' when I'd be legally compelled not to do that? T_T If C H didn't have the new additions to the team sign an NDA, then your business model is pure crap. But then again.. when's the last time you've EMPLOYED someone in the almighty and same C H team I've seen in same formation for years now? I really doubt skilled people wouldn't want to join your ranks, but it's a complicated matter on both ends: trust, like you put it and how much you're willing to pay that person vs. how much (if a unit of measurement) he/she is supposed to work. The things that matter, right?
I appreciate you're respecting me.. though keep in mind when you write a wall of text on negatives and end with "I do respect him", that's zero. Pretty much like I will end with here: I respect you and your work. But you can't blame each and everyone for your current situation, you can't act like you're not doing what you're preaching and I would ask that you either CREDIT people or ask for their permission to include shit in C H trainers, whenever you feel like or are compelled by your pleb to use others' work. That simple.
In a long run, I believe the following topics will be SUPER useful to anyone out there, including C H:
- how to debug a trainer that has anti-debug protection
- how to catch the modifications done by a trainer to a game via Windows APIs
- how to dump the game's executable code sections before and after a trainer writes to those sections (1:1 compare and dig out the changes)
- how to write a super easy Lua script that would PRINT to Lua Engine window whatever a trainer does to a game
Considering I don't create trainers as a job.. and even if I would, I wouldn't mind.. I believe absolutely everyone will love the anarchy (Anarchy is the state of a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body.) Applied here, anarchy would be the state of the gamehacking community where there's no governing trainer making "authority". In short, everyone will make use of EVERYONE's work, with a few clicks or reads of 1-2 articles.
Let me know if you want that to happen, cuz my hands are itching.
Maybe then myself and others alike will find a REAL challenge in working with a trainer
Despite all the bitching and complaining, it's not the ripping that hurts a business. It's how you're supposed to change your shit so they can't rip again. Change the framework, change the code, invest money you don't want to, but have, into better protections, etc. And all of that on top of your current day-to-day work, training titles for subscribers who always crave this and that and don't let you rest. That's where we'll see the real C H at its best. If you manage to pull what I said off, then and only then will I respect you/C H. And maybe then you'll look back and think of those days when you were pissed people ripped from you and weren't content with that.. but now have to deal with more serious shit. Cuz.. you.. just.. couldn't let go.