kamshuikam wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:44 pm
Cielos wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:18 pm
kamshuikam wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:17 am
[...]
*-*made and compiled by kamshuikam*-*
credits: the hours passed on it, all hacker who
participate to brought new data, scan etc...
[...]
there are
17 scripts in your table.
11 of them are straight copy and paste from my table. all you have done is changing the script names.
from the
remaining 6 scripts, I recognise
at least 3 are made by other creators. again, all you have done is changing the script names.
then you
gave credits to yourself, whom apparently spent hours
MADE and compiled the whole table, and "
all hacker who
participate to brought new data, scan etc..."
WE didn't brought you "new data, scan etc.".
WE WROTE the scripts,
literally from scratch.
many members have been posting compilation to the forum, most of them are very well appreciated, especially when there are multiple creators to one popular game, one can spent
hours to go through over at least 50 pages to find what they need.
it's because they are helpful, AND they gave PROPER CREDITS to the actual creator, both in the download post and in the table.
maybe you should consider applying this habit as well when doing compilation.
maybe not...
OF COURSE give credits to my work, always do, and...
you
do not seems to have
properly read the table post you are talking about.
your quotes are inaccurate.
kam, proud to have brought this table for everybody, have fun.
salam.
I logged in to update the OP with links to the options I didn't add to my table before I close the "cheating process" for this game for now, then I see you did more sneaky work...
have some time to kill before going to work... so, here we go.
you edited your original post, than you called on me for miss-quoting. you know there's a timestamp of your last edit of the post?
for this updated table post of yours, you changes the "credits" I quoted, from
*-*made and compiled by kamshuikam*-*
credits: the hours passed on it, all hacker who participate to brought new data, scan etc...
to
*-*made by kamshuikam*-*
not even a compiler any more, you made it.
the "all hacker who participate to brought new data" bits are moved under the "credits", and added the "from scratch" bit which I emphasized, together with a bunch of names who you don't even know, and gave credits to those who contribute to CE's development -- an act that might be meant to be sarcastic I guess...?
at the same time, you belittle even more to the ones who actually made almost all the scripts of the table you claims you made.
so, now that you updated your table post:
in your "-----how it was done ?" tab, you used 6 points to describe you works on gathering the work made by others.
-Grabbed what was on forum, tested all their stuff line by line , deleted what was not useful for common people.
-tested again
-tested each entry of id list in game.
-compiled what was useful to keep among all cheat, rearranged, renamed what needed to be.
-tested again all the table
-spreaded through this wonderful site the best table for the codex initial version of bloodstained RoN.
in other words, download tables that made by others, change the script names, delete some you don't need/understand, and even do some testing! and now it means it's "*-*made by kamshuikam*-*".... oh wait, other than gathering, you did this too:
-imrpoved the table with complete id drop down list (some effort and time in this part).
some other members have done this also, and we soon found out different game version has different set of ids. which means spending time to find all ids manually may not be a good idea anymore. that's why I made the
fetch id script. which allows you to fetch all ids except the toggle-able skill, and can automatically paste them to the enemy drop table by pressing some hot-keys in-game -- you don't even need to alt-tab back to CE most of the time -- which you conveniently ignored.
together with pox911's
ID Generator you can get every ids (actually with this alone, you can get all ids....), no matter which version you're using.
now, although arguable depends on the situation, drop-down-list can be easier to use than copy and paste from
ID Generator script.
get the id/names takes time, and you took the effort to share. this alone is commendable. no one can diminish this effort.
what I accused you is that, not mentioning the actual creators who made almost all the scripts from scratch to the table you posted, the table the ids you found are depend on. these are the sole creator of the scripts you used/distributed. instead you named us "all hacker who participate to brought new data, scan etc...".
then edited your post to mentioned the names who create CE, while still leaving out the ones who created at least 14 out of the 17 scripts of the table that put your name on it.
and... you're proud of what you did.
now, on to your nest response.
kamshuikam wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:55 pm
aob scan, auto assembler skills demand some time , it is true but also, computers work for us when doing so.
copy paste demand little effort, be sure to test after.
delete what seems not useful and rearrange, a little effort, again test after.
a drop down list with all id demands a little more effort and patience, and testing again with each to be sure.
finally you find yourself having spent a bunch of hours.
Good job in your script(s), made from scratch like you said.
thanks to CE user-friendlyness (auto-assembler is a good example) and let not forget your skills and experience.
kam, still proud and grateful of the possibility of CE and of the existence of this site, and all who contribute to works on table :
from the less skilled to the most skilled. have fun ceilos.
ps: do not ever expect to be mentioned by name in the future.
this good habits you talked about should be forgotten, and patreon money things too and even paypal !!
most of all the credits to the makers of cheat engine also i guess.
Kam.
salam.
know what, reading your words alone is enough, no need for me to make it a point by point. you made it very clear.
one thing though, for someone who thinks name shouldn't be mentioned, and even be forgotten, you sure remember to mention yours on every post.
re-read my post that mentioned you. I never asked for names, but the attitude -- which you demonstrate yours multiple times already:
"I don't care who made it, you should be forgotten. I downloaded it, I kept what useful to me, I tested it. in order to "perfect" it, I spent hours to fill the drop-down-list, even added one or 2 more options of my own (maybe? not sure actually) to it.
I, Kam, thanks for all who participate to brought new data, scan etc, without the CE's creators/developers and Kam, I can't MAKE this PERFECT TABLE."
thanks Kam.
you
may want to earn a name for yourself here.
well at least for me (another nameless members to you, some fame-whore with some skills and experience who's apparently full of himself...), you sure did earn yourself a name. though you may not like it.
again, thanks kamshuikam.
EDIT: added a brackets to the last paragraph... not meant to name calling others~