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dirtydanisreal
Expert Cheater
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by dirtydanisreal » Mon May 15, 2017 1:18 pm
awesome so how would I add the r_drawnearfov command into the raw text file for a cheat engine table. I want to make one to adjust FOV and Viewmodel FOV
How to use this cheat table?
Install Cheat Engine
Double-click the .CT file in order to open it.
Click the PC icon in Cheat Engine in order to select the game process.
Keep the list.
Activate the trainer options by checking boxes or setting values from 0 to 1
DanRlz
What is cheating?
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by DanRlz » Mon May 15, 2017 4:35 pm
Thanks
The Mogician
Table Makers
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by The Mogician » Wed May 17, 2017 4:41 am
free cam does not seem to work for me, can anyone confirm?
Jessen
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by Jessen » Wed May 17, 2017 6:09 am
is there any options for research, and neuromods installed?
Jessen
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by Jessen » Wed May 17, 2017 10:06 am
pox911 wrote: ↑ Sat May 13, 2017 5:14 pm
Here is are two useful codes.
Fabricator Override:
Spawn whatever you want from the fabricator
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<CheatTable>
<CheatEntries>
<CheatEntry>
<ID>24</ID>
<Description>"Fabricator Spawn Override"</Description>
<Options moHideChildren="1"/>
<LastState/>
<VariableType>Auto Assembler Script</VariableType>
<AssemblerScript>{ Game : Prey.exe
Version:
Date : 2017-05-10
}
[ENABLE]
aobscanmodule(FabOverrAOB,Prey.exe,41 FF 90 D0 01 00 00 48 8B D8 F3) // should be unique
alloc(newmem,$1000,"Prey.exe"+125C620)
label(code)
label(return)
label(FabOverr)
registersymbol(FabOverr)
newmem:
code:
mov rdx,[FabOverr]
call qword ptr [r8+000001D0]
jmp return
FabOverr:
dq 950B34F3577D61F3
FabOverrAOB:
jmp newmem
nop
nop
return:
registersymbol(FabOverrAOB)
[DISABLE]
FabOverrAOB:
db 41 FF 90 D0 01 00 00
unregistersymbol(FabOverrAOB)
unregistersymbol(FabOverr)
dealloc(newmem)
{
// ORIGINAL CODE - INJECTION POINT: "Prey.exe"+125C620
"Prey.exe"+125C5FB: 48 89 75 E8 - mov [rbp-18],rsi
"Prey.exe"+125C5FF: 48 89 75 08 - mov [rbp+08],rsi
"Prey.exe"+125C603: 48 89 75 F0 - mov [rbp-10],rsi
"Prey.exe"+125C607: 48 8B 03 - mov rax,[rbx]
"Prey.exe"+125C60A: 4D 8D 6E 10 - lea r13,[r14+10]
"Prey.exe"+125C60E: 48 8B CB - mov rcx,rbx
"Prey.exe"+125C611: FF 90 D8 01 00 00 - call qword ptr [rax+000001D8]
"Prey.exe"+125C617: 4C 8B 03 - mov r8,[rbx]
"Prey.exe"+125C61A: 48 8B CB - mov rcx,rbx
"Prey.exe"+125C61D: 48 8B D0 - mov rdx,rax
// ---------- INJECTING HERE ----------
"Prey.exe"+125C620: 41 FF 90 D0 01 00 00 - call qword ptr [r8+000001D0]
// ---------- DONE INJECTING ----------
"Prey.exe"+125C627: 48 8B D8 - mov rbx,rax
"Prey.exe"+125C62A: F3 0F 10 BF 90 06 00 00 - movss xmm7,[rdi+00000690]
"Prey.exe"+125C632: F3 0F 10 05 22 8A D7 00 - movss xmm0,[Prey.exe+1FD505C]
"Prey.exe"+125C63A: F3 44 0F 10 87 94 06 00 00 - movss xmm8,[rdi+00000694]
"Prey.exe"+125C643: 45 0F 28 F4 - movaps xmm14,xmm12
"Prey.exe"+125C647: 0F 28 CF - movaps xmm1,xmm7
"Prey.exe"+125C64A: 41 0F 28 D0 - movaps xmm2,xmm8
"Prey.exe"+125C64E: 41 0F 28 F0 - movaps xmm6,xmm8
"Prey.exe"+125C652: F3 0F 59 C8 - mulss xmm1,xmm0
"Prey.exe"+125C656: F3 0F 59 D0 - mulss xmm2,xmm0
}
</AssemblerScript>
<CheatEntries>
<CheatEntry>
<ID>25</ID>
<Description>"ID"</Description>
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950B34F3577D61E8:ArkPickups.Ammo.GooGun
950B34F3577D61E9:ArkPickups.Ammo.InstaLaser
950B34F3577D6281:ArkPickups.Ammo.LureGrenades
950B34F3577D61F4:ArkPickups.Ammo.NullwaveTransmitter
950B34F3577D628C:ArkPickups.Ammo.OperatorGrenade
950B34F3577D6234:ArkPickups.Ammo.PistolBullets
950B34F3577D6216:ArkPickups.Ammo.RecyclerGrenades
950B34F3577D61EA:ArkPickups.Ammo.ShotgunShells
950B34F3577D629C:ArkPickups.Ammo.StunGunAmmo
950B34F3577D6270:ArkPickups.Ammo.ToyGunDarts
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950B34F3577D6201:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Ammo.LaserAmmoFabPlan
950B34F3577D6294:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Ammo.PistolAmmoFabPlan
950B34F3577D62AB:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Ammo.Random
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950B34F3577D6205:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.NeuroModFabPlan
950B34F3577D6299:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.OxygenFuseFabPlan
950B34F3577D62A3:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Pharma.PharmaAntiBleedFabPlan
950B34F3577D62A2:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Pharma.PharmaAntiBurnFabPlan
950B34F3577D62A1:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Pharma.PharmaAntiConcussionFabPlan
950B34F3577D62A0:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Pharma.PharmaAntiCrippleFabPlan
950B34F3577D629F:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Pharma.PharmaAntiRadFabPlan
950B34F3577D62AA:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Pharma.Random
950B34F3577D6204:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.PropulsionSystemFabPlan
950B34F3577D61FD:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.PsiHypoFabPlan
950B34F3577D6206:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.SuitMaint.OxygenBottleFabPlan
950B34F3577D62AD:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.SuitMaint.Random
950B34F3577D628B:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.SuitMaint.SuitPatchKitFabPlan
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BB693BC588665D2:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.TreasureHuntModFabPlan_Good
950B34F3577D622F:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.TurretFabPlan
93AF931A587D041A:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.WaterPressureRegulator
950B34F3577D61FC:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.GooGunFabPlan
950B34F3577D6203:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.InstalaserFabPlan
950B34F3577D6291:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.PistolFabPlan
950B34F3577D62AC:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.Random
950B34F3577D61FB:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.ShotgunFabPlan
93AF931A57E2EA47:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.ShotgunPreorderFabPlan
950B34F3577D627E:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.TaserPistolFabPlan
950B34F3577D627F:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.ToyGunFabPlan
950B34F3577D6217:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.Weapon.WrenchFabPlan
950B34F3577D6236:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.WeaponKitFabPlan
BB693BC5845A5E3:ArkPickups.Crafting.FabricationPlans.WrenchModFabPlan
950B34F3577D6231:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.Bourbon
950B34F3577D620C:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.Champagne
950B34F3577D625F:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.DuckBeer
950B34F3577D625E:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.Gin
950B34F3577D625D:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.Moonshine
93AF931A57A118E7:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.Random
93AF931A57BB5145:ArkPickups.Food.Alcohol.Vodka
950B34F3577D620E:ArkPickups.Food.Bag.BigBangCandy
950B34F3577D6253:ArkPickups.Food.Bag.Glucassist
950B34F3577D624E:ArkPickups.Food.Bag.SunDriedTomatoJerky
950B34F3577D6250:ArkPickups.Food.Bag.VeggieBlend
950B34F3577D6257:ArkPickups.Food.Bowl.BananaPudding
950B34F3577D6255:ArkPickups.Food.Bowl.DimSum
950B34F3577D624F:ArkPickups.Food.Bowl.UdonNoodles
950B34F3577D6258:ArkPickups.Food.Box.BliniCakes
950B34F3577D6249:ArkPickups.Food.Box.CrispyFrites
950B34F3577D6251:ArkPickups.Food.Box.FishSticks
950B34F3577D6256:ArkPickups.Food.Box.LemonPieSlice
950B34F3577D620D:ArkPickups.Food.Box.SkeksisUnagiRollz
950B34F3577D624C:ArkPickups.Food.Box.SpiraliteCookies
950B34F3577D625A:ArkPickups.Food.Can.GreenTea
950B34F3577D625C:ArkPickups.Food.Can.KafeKarsk
950B34F3577D6259:ArkPickups.Food.Can.PopStar
950B34F3577D620F:ArkPickups.Food.Produce.Apple
950B34F3577D6210:ArkPickups.Food.Produce.Banana
950B34F3577D6289:ArkPickups.Food.Produce.BananaBunch
950B34F3577D6246:ArkPickups.Food.Produce.BluePomegranate
950B34F3577D6247:ArkPickups.Food.Produce.Lemon
950B34F3577D6248:ArkPickups.Food.Produce.Tomato
950B34F3577D61F0:ArkPickups.Food.Random
950B34F3577D6254:ArkPickups.Food.Tin.Caviar
950B34F3577D624A:ArkPickups.Food.Tin.JelliedEels
950B34F3577D61F2:ArkPickups.Medical.MedKit
950B34F3577D61F1:ArkPickups.Medical.PsiHypo
950B34F3577D6265:ArkPickups.Medical.TraumaPharmas.AntiBleed
950B34F3577D6267:ArkPickups.Medical.TraumaPharmas.AntiBurn
950B34F3577D6264:ArkPickups.Medical.TraumaPharmas.AntiConcussion
950B34F3577D6268:ArkPickups.Medical.TraumaPharmas.AntiCripple
950B34F3577D6266:ArkPickups.Medical.TraumaPharmas.AntiRad
93AF931A58484A4E:ArkPickups.Medical.TraumaPharmas.Random
950B34F3577D6219:ArkPickups.Misc.SpareParts
950B34F3577D6230:ArkPickups.Misc.TurretPickup
93AF931A57D2E728:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.AbsorbCoral
93AF931A57D2E864:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.BuffControlPowers
93AF931A57D2F06C:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.BuffDamagePowers
93AF931A57C0ABC3:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.CanScanCoral
950B34F3577D6242:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.CritChancePlus10_Pistol
950B34F3577D6241:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.CritChancePlus10_Shotgun
950B34F3577D6240:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.CritChancePlus10_Wrench
950B34F3577D623F:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.DecreaseScanningTime
950B34F3577D62B1:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.DetectEliteMimicAndPoltergeist
950B34F3577D62B0:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.DetectMimics
950B34F3577D62C2:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.ElectrostaticBuff
950B34F3577D623E:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.EnhancedPSI
950B34F3577D62A9:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.FasterPowersCooldown
93AF931A57D2E7D2:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.FearBomb
93AF931A57D2CBEA:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.FearResistance
93AF931A57D2F051:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.FreePsiCast
93AF931A58332673:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.IncreaseScanningRange
950B34F3577D62C0:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.KineticBlastBuff
93AF931A57A10348:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.MarkedEnemiesDamage
93AF931A58125910:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.MechTechs
950B34F3577D62B2:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.NullwaveShield
93AF931A58010D7A:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.PSIRegen
950B34F3577D62C1:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.PsychoshockBuff
93AF931A57D2D170:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.PsychoshockResist
950B34F3577D6297:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.Random
93AF931A57D2EFF1:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.ReducePsiCostEnergy
93AF931A57D2F01F:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.ReducePsiCostMorph
93AF931A57D2F028:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.ReducePsiCostTelepathic
93AF931A57D2E7B8:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.SneakAttackRestoresPSI
93AF931A57D2E6F7:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.SpendHealthAsPSI
950B34F3577D62BF:ArkPickups.Mods.Psychoscope.ThermalBlastBuff
93AF931A58114CD9:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.BacklashBuff
950B34F3577D6244:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.DecreaseTraumaChance
950B34F3577D62B9:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.EMP_Shielding
93AF931A57D2F135:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.FallDamagesNPCs
950B34F3577D62BC:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.FlashlightDuration
950B34F3577D623A:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.HeavyMachineryAssist
950B34F3577D62BD:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.ImprovedStamina
93AF931A58010EE7:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.LaserShield
950B34F3577D62C3:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.LastChance
93AF931A57A0FC14:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.LeverageAssist
93AF931A57D2F0C9:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.NeverDrunk
93AF931A57D2F0FF:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.OnRobotDeath
93AF931A581268DF:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.PhysicalDamageShield
93AF931A57D2F101:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.PlayerNotRecyclable
950B34F3577D623B:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.PropulsionUpgrade_I
950B34F3577D6296:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.PropulsionUpgrade_II
950B34F3577D629E:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.Random
BB693BC58863137:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.RecyclerLootBonus
BB693BC588631DE:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.RecyclerLootLimiter
93AF931A57D2F18B:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.ReduceSpaceCrashDamage
93AF931A57D2F096:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.ResistElectric
93AF931A57D2F094:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.ResistEther
93AF931A57D2F095:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.ResistFire
93AF931A57D2F097:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.ResistRad
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93AF931A57D2F0CB:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.SneakAttackRestoreHealth
950B34F3577D623C:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.SpringStep
93AF931A57D2DDDB:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.SuitIntegrityBuff
93AF931A57D2E6A6:ArkPickups.Mods.Suit.WrenchKnockback
950B34F3577D621A:ArkPickups.Mods.Weapon.WeaponUpgradeKit
950B34F3577D61F3:ArkPickups.Player.Neuromod
950B34F3577D6295:ArkPickups.Player.Neuromod_Case
950B34F3577D628A:ArkPickups.Player.SuitPatchKit
950B34F3577D620A:ArkPickups.Weapons.GooGun
950B34F3577D61F9:ArkPickups.Weapons.Instalaser
950B34F3577D6235:ArkPickups.Weapons.Pistol
950B34F3577D61FA:ArkPickups.Weapons.Shotgun
950B34F3577D626F:ArkPickups.Weapons.StunGun
950B34F3577D6271:ArkPickups.Weapons.ToyGun
950B34F3577D6290:ArkPickups.Weapons.Unique.Pistol_Golden
2BB4A699583C7FD2:ArkPickups.Weapons.Unique.Shotgun_Golden
950B34F3577D6209:ArkPickups.Weapons.Wrench
</DropDownList>
<ShowAsHex>1</ShowAsHex>
<VariableType>8 Bytes</VariableType>
<Address>FabOverr</Address>
</CheatEntry>
</CheatEntries>
</CheatEntry>
</CheatEntries>
</CheatTable>
I'm curious, do you think it would be possible to use the fabricator to make Typhon for research?
pox911
Slob
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by pox911 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:21 pm
I've only managed to spawn named typhon so far so probably not. Also any living thing spawned from the fabricator is brain dead and invincible so good luck cleaning up your mess
The Mogician
Table Makers
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by The Mogician » Wed May 17, 2017 4:54 pm
SunBeam wrote: ↑ Wed May 17, 2017 7:03 am
The Mogician wrote: ↑ Wed May 17, 2017 4:41 am
free cam does not seem to work for me, can anyone confirm?
Works for me. That reminds me to adjust movement speed to normal values
So basically, activate script, press numlock 7 8 9 for the functions?
Atlus
What is cheating?
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by Atlus » Wed May 17, 2017 8:52 pm
Can someone fix, or let me know how to fix, the infinite psi cheat? Achangel's has been broken since that last patch.
Belnick
Cheater
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by Belnick » Wed May 17, 2017 11:46 pm
1.0 crashes the game, but it works, for the 10 seconds before crash
1.2 does not even work
nevermind, me being a retard and locking values for no reason, works great thx
Jessen
Expert Cheater
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by Jessen » Thu May 18, 2017 6:25 am
pox911 wrote: ↑ Wed May 17, 2017 4:21 pm
I've only managed to spawn named typhon so far so probably not. Also any living thing spawned from the fabricator is brain dead and invincible so good luck cleaning up your mess
well thats a start, anyways. you try recycler charges on them? Mostly i'm looking for ways to control research at this point.
jonasbeckman
Expert Cheater
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by jonasbeckman » Fri May 19, 2017 7:56 am
Update 1.03 is available as a opt-in beta now, guessing that since a weekend is coming up it'll probably be released in full next week.
[Link]
(Further bug fixes and FOV can be adjusted from within the game options now.)
Guessing it'll be similar to 1.02 where the current tables are only partially compatible but I haven't checked, since it's a beta there's also a chance of the patch being updated further before it's official release although this didn't happen with the 1.02 update but it depends on what Arkane discovers during testing I suppose and reports on the Steam forums should anything come up.
ArmY of 0n3
Table Makers
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by ArmY of 0n3 » Fri May 19, 2017 11:28 pm
This is mine table for Prey v1.0.0-CPY
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Inf.Health
Inf.Shield
Inf.Energy
Inf.Ammo
Inf.Stamina
Inf.Supplies
Inf.Flashlight
Inf.Hack Timer
Instant Charge
One Hit Kill
Attachments
Prey (2017) +10 v1.0.0.CT
Prey (2017) +10 v1.0.0 (23.08 KiB) Downloaded 172 times
ETA3minutes
Novice Cheater
Posts: 17 Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:58 pm
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by ETA3minutes » Sat May 20, 2017 1:50 pm
Amz work, thx
The Mogician
Table Makers
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by The Mogician » Sat May 20, 2017 2:40 pm
The free cam script still doesn't work for me. I go in game, I activate the script. I hit numpad 7 and 8, I still don't get the free cam. The time dilation things, don't work either. Am I doing anything wrong?
ETA3minutes
Novice Cheater
Posts: 17 Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:58 pm
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by ETA3minutes » Tue May 23, 2017 8:59 am
Update 1.03 is officially released. No push, but, would there be an update on table?