Playing with cheats vs playing with no cheats (Singleplayer)

[renegadespeedrun]

Playing with cheats
Pros:
- Relaxing
- Mindless FUN
- Always a new experience from playing without cheats, especially on harder/unfair games
- If even developers play most of the time with cheats on (debug mode), why can't we? Do we not own the game?
- Better flow and concentration to keep track of the story
- Better chance to explore everything or do 100%
- Waste less time, but still enjoy the game to its fullest
- Appreciate just the pure content of the game, no bullshit of repetition over and over again just to make you waste time.

Cons:
- Some games with some cheats on may glitch out causing softlocks or crashes in certain parts of the game

Playing with no cheats
Pros:
- Challenge can get some players a sense of fulfilment that can be pleasurable
- Players can feel good about themselves if they're really good on a game and don't have anything else to feel good about on real life.

Cons:
- Countless hours wasted just to get good, or in some games, just to see the ending.
- Players can feel bad and shitty if they're not really good on a game even after spending countless hours.
- Can be rage inducing, therefore, bad for your (mental) health.
- Lose more time looking at walkthroughs if you're stuck.
- More money wasted on broken controllers (oh, sweet childhood)
- The way developers intended you to play is often just to waste your time and test your patience. ( If you own the game you should be able to play it your way, fuck the rest)



What about you guys. What do you think? Anything you would like to add?

[ShyTwig16]

Pros of writing your own hacks:
- You can manipulate the mechanics however you like. If you like the hardcore difficulty mechanics but dislike bullet sponges, you can change that behavior. If the combatants are too easy, you can change the damage dealt to be more.
- If you work full time and don't have the time to collect 139,377 brown rocks, just will them into existence.
- You can explore areas blocked off by the devs, or areas that have a high difficulty and thus cause you to rush through.
- You can add your own new game plus, in a way.
- You can develop real world skills that are transferable to any game. You might even end up working in a field that these skills greatly benefit.

And really this list could go on forever, it's only limited by your imagination and skill level. And it's a bit subjective.

Cons:
- The game can be boring if you have no impulse control. If you have everything unlocked and all the money you could need from the start what's the point of doing anything.
Note: But this is why I like to play the game through with out cheats first. Plus it helps with debugging cheats, if you know the game crashes at certain point you'll know it wasn't your cheats. And this helps with the recon of the game mechanics, you'll know what you want to hack and have a better idea of how to find what you are looking for.
- You may quite the game before it gets good, because who the fuck has the time to collect 139,377 brown rocks; "don't be a dick Claptrap".

And like above, this list can be a bit subjective.

[renegadespeedrun]

your list is interesting, thanks for participating. Yeah, but the first rule of cheating is to never cheat WAY too much, because it loses the entire point. But in my opinion, having the unlimited health is probably the most useful cheat in my opinion, you can never go without it, so much that I don't use cheats at all in games without health that can have a certain fair degree of difficulty (limbo comes to mind).
Also, what's collecting those brown rocks for claptrap compared to collecting all the 425 baked beans in town with no name. Nuff said.