After combing this thread I found this out. araara456 mentioned in I think page 4 or 5. Follow the line you wish to have 999. ex 02 00 00 00 39 00 39 00 00 00 that give you 99 right? Just change 02 to 03 and add a nine after a period so it will look like 03 00 00 00 39 00 39 00 39 00. Do not change it to 4 and try to get 9999 it will ctd and possibly corrupt the save.nuker22110 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:27 amhow do you get 999 researcher? i am only able to increase till 99. 999 doesnt seem to workillusionbreaker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:56 pmAnyone figured how to hack Design Stats yet? They can roll 70-130 and make a pretty big difference
Also Stratagems/Stratagem Counts, very important for Fate Cards
Oh and Linear Technologies, though I suppose a 999 INT researcher could do the trick.
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You can't, as far as I'm aware. The way this game is coded makes it to where you can only edit values if you use the same number of digits. So credits can only go up to 999 if you're starting with 108. Once you get to 999, you can sell some metal or something to get to 1004 or whatever and that can be edited to 9999. If there is some card or way to get an advisor with 99 INT a boost in-game to 100 then you can get them to 999. If you try to go from 9 to 999 then the game doesn't like it and gets confused. I have tried to get 999 INT but I am unable to do so.nuker22110 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:27 amhow do you get 999 researcher? i am only able to increase till 99. 999 doesnt seem to workillusionbreaker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:56 pmAnyone figured how to hack Design Stats yet? They can roll 70-130 and make a pretty big difference
Also Stratagems/Stratagem Counts, very important for Fate Cards
Oh and Linear Technologies, though I suppose a 999 INT researcher could do the trick.
I may be doing it wrong, but I do space appropriately in memory viewer when editing values and the game still doesn't like it.
Edit: the above method did not work for me, but that may be due to user error or editing at the inappropriate time. It seems that this game only really likes to be edited at certain times, sometimes that is right after loading and sometimes it is at the end of a turn after you have completed everything.
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Sorry it didn't work for you. Try this, highlight the first number ex 9.9... then follow it left until you see a 2 double click and change it to 3boxerdemon wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:18 amYou can't, as far as I'm aware. The way this game is coded makes it to where you can only edit values if you use the same number of digits. So credits can only go up to 999 if you're starting with 108. Once you get to 999, you can sell some metal or something to get to 1004 or whatever and that can be edited to 9999. If there is some card or way to get an advisor with 99 INT a boost in-game to 100 then you can get them to 999. If you try to go from 9 to 999 then the game doesn't like it and gets confused. I have tried to get 999 INT but I am unable to do so.nuker22110 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:27 amhow do you get 999 researcher? i am only able to increase till 99. 999 doesnt seem to workillusionbreaker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:56 pmAnyone figured how to hack Design Stats yet? They can roll 70-130 and make a pretty big difference
Also Stratagems/Stratagem Counts, very important for Fate Cards
Oh and Linear Technologies, though I suppose a 999 INT researcher could do the trick.
I may be doing it wrong, but I do space appropriately in memory viewer when editing values and the game still doesn't like it.
Edit: the above method did not work for me, but that may be due to user error or editing at the inappropriate time. It seems that this game only really likes to be edited at certain times, sometimes that is right after loading and sometimes it is at the end of a turn after you have completed everything.
then you should change it to this 9.9.9.... ad the extra 9 after not before I made that mistake too.
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i am changing capability to 999
heroic to 999
ambition to 1
edit: capability seems to be limited to 5
This game is extremely annoying even with cheats
-why do i have to chase enemy after i win like 5th time
-nations gets zone from you even if you are in peace turns with them, but you cant !
-officers stats make no difference on research
-why do i have to confirm decisions like 100th time in like every 2 turns
-why officers are so restless i have to deal with them every turn
-cities get restless without any reason at all
-you have to be a genius to understand how logistics works in this game
- no way to make money even with a big city, manually sell everything until you cant. come on i am playing on easy mode !
so much potential but sooooo wasted game.
heroic to 999
ambition to 1
edit: capability seems to be limited to 5
This game is extremely annoying even with cheats
-why do i have to chase enemy after i win like 5th time
-nations gets zone from you even if you are in peace turns with them, but you cant !
-officers stats make no difference on research
-why do i have to confirm decisions like 100th time in like every 2 turns
-why officers are so restless i have to deal with them every turn
-cities get restless without any reason at all
-you have to be a genius to understand how logistics works in this game
- no way to make money even with a big city, manually sell everything until you cant. come on i am playing on easy mode !
so much potential but sooooo wasted game.
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According to help "personality" is a 1 to 100 skill so I doubt 999 does any good.
Other Capabilities (like 9) work but still provide nothing more than 14XP per turn, so indeed sticking to 1 to 5 seems reasonable.
I would not say annoying. But some aspects can still be hard even with cheating. This is multiple games in one (like: Logistics management, Resource management, People management, Research management, Unit design, Diplomacy & Military conflict): Cheating usually makes one area a walk in the park but the the others might be positively ore negatively affected but usually remain a challenge unless you find another cheat or start to understand the underlying mechanics of the "sub-game".
Because you either need to be MUCH stronger and effective so the enemy unit has no relevant combat strength anymore or (more likely) you need to accept that the military game is about maneuvering and encircling units rather than beating them back.
So typically a group of smaller fast units is a lot better than one "killing stack" for various reasons. Use multiple brigade level OHQs (later maybe corps level) instead of one giant army level OHQ.
Yes, there are a few things around diplomacy that are weird (and hopefully get fixed over time). But I do not get the exact context here. From my experience if you at peace no one can get territory from no one by military means.
They make a lot of difference on the research speed (Bonus to BPs which can be huge).
a) Maybe around every 5 turns.
b) Because PP are a rare resource, so the game tries to give you chance to change these things without paying.
c) Just hit "No changes".
If you played the people management right and chose ones fitting to your regime profile (and fitting to your current decisions), this will not happen anymore. If you are playing with "epochs" you can get unlucky to get an "epoch of egoism" early one, which can indeed be annoying.
They can for various reasons but not without a reason (including a random event).
Logistics is hard to master (as it can be in real life - worked with several large logistics companies in my professional life). Initially the game bit more than it could chew. But this mostly comes to light, when you manage large networks of huge empires which already won the game or a very close to achieving this. Two emergency exits are being offered: Create another SHQ (essentially another regional logistics network) or play with "simplified logistics".
Also there are a few guides on logistics in the matrixgames forums that might help.
It is indeed strange that you start with zero tax rates. But as soon you succeed to raise the income tax to around 50% (and sales tax to 25% or 50%), cash flow begins to level out. Never played on "easy" so I cannot tell to which extent it influences. I would suggest to rather play "normal" - disabling some extras like epochs/cults/syndicate etc. to get to the core mechanisms to the game first.
A complex game with a flat learning curve (plus a few flaws and and some room for improvement). But turn-based with lots of replayability potential - something which comes along every few years at best.
So I hope you will give it another chance some time. Good luck!
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I wanted to share some findings from my cheat attempts in case there are still people wanting to do more.
Found a possibility to work with leader skills. However this only works with adjusting up to the number of skills (each single one up to level 999) which a leader has when he/she is added to the game (and potentially impacted by the way the character is added). Basically I can change existing skills into new ones and adjust their level.
Also after a few turns when the leader evolves (skills up and/or joins a party), the way it is stored in memory changes as well. After this I cannot change the skills anymore.
Interesting enough the leaders can skill up beyond 999 themselves (failing quite often when trying) but in case I did it manually the game crashed a few times.
So I assume we will never see a cheat table based on my findings. On the other hand most skills do nothing more than making sure that one succeeds with certain skill rolls.
This can be huge:
I can add a guide if needed but :
Don`t expect the game to become a walk in the park overall (at least not in any other way that was already possible by just tweaking the stats).
Don`t expect you can adapt things all the time easily.
Be prepared to invest some time.
Just as an indication what can be done I added an attachment with some leaders I tweaked this way. (PW: 1)
Found a possibility to work with leader skills. However this only works with adjusting up to the number of skills (each single one up to level 999) which a leader has when he/she is added to the game (and potentially impacted by the way the character is added). Basically I can change existing skills into new ones and adjust their level.
Also after a few turns when the leader evolves (skills up and/or joins a party), the way it is stored in memory changes as well. After this I cannot change the skills anymore.
Interesting enough the leaders can skill up beyond 999 themselves (failing quite often when trying) but in case I did it manually the game crashed a few times.
So I assume we will never see a cheat table based on my findings. On the other hand most skills do nothing more than making sure that one succeeds with certain skill rolls.
This can be huge:
- getting a minor zone to join you early on
getting a large movement bonus for your nearby OHQ units
exploding BP invest for research
- dealing with some negative event from time to time
adding a combat bonus for a specific unit type which you don`t use often
reducing the effect of old age.
I can add a guide if needed but :
Don`t expect the game to become a walk in the park overall (at least not in any other way that was already possible by just tweaking the stats).
Don`t expect you can adapt things all the time easily.
Be prepared to invest some time.
Just as an indication what can be done I added an attachment with some leaders I tweaked this way. (PW: 1)
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Oh, I did this before. I didn't post the findings of my results because I thought everyone here stopped playing it.Keenan004 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:30 amFound a possibility to work with leader skills. However this only works with adjusting up to the number of skills (each single one up to level 999) which a leader has when he/she is added to the game (and potentially impacted by the way the character is added).
The leader storage method changes if you load game from a save, you can only change leader skills on freshly generated leaders.
- Here are the skill IDs (in string):
1 Bribery
2 Diplomacy
3 Leadership
4 Deception
5 Streetwise
6 Oratory
7 Survival
8 6th Sense
9 Intimidate
10 Personal Combat
11 Lead From the Front
12 Endurance
13 Escape Artist
14 Administration
15 Improvisation
16 Against the Odds
17Resist Influence
18 High Command
19 Investigation
20 Trade
21 Technician
22 Medical
23 Demolition
24 Operational Command
25 Science
26 Prospecting
27 Scavenging
28 Interrogation
29 Agriculture
30 Inventor
31 Tank Tactics
32 Gun Tactics
33 Infantry Tactics
34 N/A
35 N/A
36 Offensive Tactics
37 Defensive Tactics
38 Mobile Tactics
39 Defensive Works
40 Covert Ops
41 Ecology
Generally (but not always!) the formatting is:
leader age, leader personality block, leader statblock, then skills
some text then
..... [skill ID].... |spacer| .... [skill value] ...
and maybe more text and
..... [skill ID].... |spacer| .... [skill value] ...
Important to keep in mind! Max skill will reset to 2x the base Stat in 1-2 turns! For example, you can push Administration to 999, but it will go back to 2x the INT value if you don't change that too.
I haven't figured out how to hack political preferences, but it might be possible to do it during the "fresh generation" phase.
You can memory edit leader age/personality/stats at any time from loaded saves, so it's not critical to do it during save.
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You might have saved me some time and a few crashes, if you had mentioned this before
On the other hand it was fun to experiment - so no real harm done.
Saw the update from gorsan a week ago, so I figured, I was not the only one sticking with the game. The initial hype was big, so a crash landing was unavoidable. But like mentioned above: The game has potential to become a classic for turn-based strategy enthusiasts. Just needs fixing a few issues and adding more moddability (the latter was mentioned to be on the roadmap at some point).illusionbreaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:37 pmI didn't post the findings of my results because I thought everyone here stopped playing it.
In each block between text passages I found up to three skills and they can be "bundled" so typical patterns areillusionbreaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:37 pmThe leader storage method changes if you load game from a save, you can only change leader skills on freshly generated leaders.
Generally (but not always!) the formatting is:
leader age, leader personality block, leader statblock, then skills
some text then
..... [skill ID].... |spacer| .... [skill value] ...
and maybe more text and
..... [skill ID].... |spacer| .... [skill value] ...
..... [skill ID].... [skill value] ... [skill ID].... [skill value] ... [skill ID].... [skill value] ...
..... [skill ID].... [skill value] ... [skill ID].... [skill ID].... [skill value] ...[skill value] ...
..... [skill ID].... [skill ID] .... [skill ID].... [skill value] ... [skill value] ...[skill value] ...
I have the impression that the job changes (referred to in the text passages) each represents a kind of stratagem which brings along 1 to 3 skills (the one mentioned in the text plus up to two random ones). This is what you can find in these blocks.
Unfortunately same here. Only relation and loyalty (resulting from political preferences). Stumbled upon some info related to job assignment as well but there are enough in-game possibilities so I did not dig deeper. And some area where you can play with the looks of characters. But not much value in that (other than fun).illusionbreaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:37 pmI haven't figured out how to hack political preferences, but it might be possible to do it during the "fresh generation" phase.
Agreed. Important issue is that I can modify skills only during the "creation phase" (like you called it). So only the initial leaders after game start and new ones when being added (mostly via stratagems).illusionbreaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:37 pmYou can memory edit leader age/personality/stats at any time from loaded saves, so it's not critical to do it during save.
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thank you for your long reply to my post.
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New findings!
After doing any orgCount work, you can search (after the orgCount stat block, use CTRL-F in memory viewer mode) for Cults using the term 'cult1_relation', which will yield string data looking like: [cult1_relation] ... [cult1_strength] ... [cult1_policy] ... [cult1_follower] ... [cult2_relation] ... [cult2_strength] ... [cult2_policy] ... [cult2_follower]
In case you have trouble with a Cult and want them gone, quickly cheat their strength to a tiny number, Suppress/Persecute them (ingame Decision) and boost other Cults, they'll die off within a few turns and hopefully won't damage your empire *too* much.
Cults I've corresponded to internal data so far:
cult1 - Shadow Cult
cult2 - Anima Circle
cult3 - Church of Syndic
cult6 - Mystic Temple
For a list of Cults and their effects check out [Link]
After doing any orgCount work, you can search (after the orgCount stat block, use CTRL-F in memory viewer mode) for Cults using the term 'cult1_relation', which will yield string data looking like: [cult1_relation] ... [cult1_strength] ... [cult1_policy] ... [cult1_follower] ... [cult2_relation] ... [cult2_strength] ... [cult2_policy] ... [cult2_follower]
In case you have trouble with a Cult and want them gone, quickly cheat their strength to a tiny number, Suppress/Persecute them (ingame Decision) and boost other Cults, they'll die off within a few turns and hopefully won't damage your empire *too* much.
Cults I've corresponded to internal data so far:
cult1 - Shadow Cult
cult2 - Anima Circle
cult3 - Church of Syndic
cult6 - Mystic Temple
For a list of Cults and their effects check out [Link]
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Found subunit stats! Use 4 bytes to search for initial AP, move the unit (spending some AP) then search for new value, then click on another unit and scan for the same AP to reduce random noise. Set display to "4 byte decimal" and the following format is valid for a subunit:
AP - Readiness - EXP - ?? - ?? - Morale
Action points causes lag above 200ish, so I suspect 9999 might cause a crash. Readiness and Morale should be set to 99 or 100 if you're mucking with those.
AP - Readiness - EXP - ?? - ?? - Morale
Action points causes lag above 200ish, so I suspect 9999 might cause a crash. Readiness and Morale should be set to 99 or 100 if you're mucking with those.
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I assume these changes are just for the current turn, right?illusionbreaker wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:55 pmFound subunit stats! Use 4 bytes to search for initial AP, move the unit (spending some AP) then search for new value, then click on another unit and scan for the same AP to reduce random noise. Set display to "4 byte decimal" and the following format is valid for a subunit:
AP - Readiness - EXP - ?? - ?? - Morale
Action points causes lag above 200ish, so I suspect 9999 might cause a crash. Readiness and Morale should be set to 99 or 100 if you're mucking with those.
If true, the reduced effort for below approach might be favorable most of the time.
For AP you get the same effect for all (up to 7) units in an Army as long as they start the turn close enough to their HQ. Commander with Mobile Tactics 999 provides 500-600 AP and around 700 AP (also depending on the unit type) if you add a HQ Doctrine with AP boost (Rush etc.).
The lag is dependent on the size of your empire and terrain, in 2-3 Zone (of reasonable size) empire, there is basically none - in a 10 Zone empire close to victory one (or not so close if playing on a huge map) it can make you worried for a few seconds, if the game actually crashed.
However using the AP for multiple attacks against stronger units (e.g. aliens) can cause them to run out of readiness and ammo, which causes them to surrender themselves . So be greedy but not too greedy
I do not try to raise skills beyond 999 because large four digit values tend to crash the game. However leaders themselves can raise their skills to 1000/1005 (plus artifacts can raise it by another 20), so not sure where exactly the limit is.
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Found something like a promising lead for character stats, about 4 values (hex byte) before a variable there's a single value that counts the number of digits in the variableillusionbreaker wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:41 amNew findings!
After doing any orgCount work, you can search (after the orgCount stat block, use CTRL-F in memory viewer mode) for Cults using the term 'cult1_relation', which will yield string data looking like: [cult1_relation] ... [cult1_strength] ... [cult1_policy] ... [cult1_follower] ... [cult2_relation] ... [cult2_strength] ... [cult2_policy] ... [cult2_follower]
In case you have trouble with a Cult and want them gone, quickly cheat their strength to a tiny number, Suppress/Persecute them (ingame Decision) and boost other Cults, they'll die off within a few turns and hopefully won't damage your empire *too* much.
Cults I've corresponded to internal data so far:
cult1 - Shadow Cult
cult2 - Anima Circle
cult3 - Church of Syndic
cult6 - Mystic Temple
For a list of Cults and their effects check out [Link]
EDIT: also scrap point string to search for is "scrapPoint" case sensitive
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