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Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:27 pm
by SunBeam
LOL. Glad to see you're still around :) Throw in some pop-corn, should make a nice read.

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:12 am
by tallbearnc
Id tell capcom to eat shit and die. ANYONE can poke ANYWHERE in their PC's memory and use any tool to do it. AT WORSE, the user violates the TOS or EULA of the game (usually if it's online), but they can't target a trainer. They may threaten and write nasty letters, but if they tried to take me to court, I'd say "ill see your ass there"

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:48 am
by TheyCallMeTim13
tallbearnc wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:12 am
Id tell capcom to eat shit and die. ANYONE can poke ANYWHERE in their PC's memory and use any tool to do it. AT WORSE, the user violates the TOS or EULA of the game (usually if it's online), but they can't target a trainer. They may threaten and write nasty letters, but if they tried to take me to court, I'd say "ill see your ass there"
Actually with the US "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act", the TOS is legally binding with prison sentences for any thing online; it's just never happened before, but the law is in place to do it (for the US).

Wikipedia.org - Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... manual.pdf

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:30 pm
by lampuiho
TheyCallMeTim13 wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:48 am
tallbearnc wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:12 am
Id tell capcom to eat shit and die. ANYONE can poke ANYWHERE in their PC's memory and use any tool to do it. AT WORSE, the user violates the TOS or EULA of the game (usually if it's online), but they can't target a trainer. They may threaten and write nasty letters, but if they tried to take me to court, I'd say "ill see your ass there"
Actually with the US "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act", the TOS is legally binding with prison sentences for any thing online; it's just never happened before, but the law is in place to do it (for the US).

Wikipedia.org - Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... manual.pdf
For the law in my country, you'd have to have caused damaged before someone could prosecute you for it.

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:08 pm
by TheyCallMeTim13
lampuiho wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:30 pm
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For the law in my country, you'd have to have caused damaged before someone could prosecute you for it.
Yeah, kinda the same thing here; basically there is no legal precedence for it so the supreme court could rule against it, so no one has even tried yet. The only legal precedence for it is wire fraud with banks, credit cards, and personal information; actually hacking a server and stealing information.

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:04 pm
by tallbearnc
TheyCallMeTim13 wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:48 am
tallbearnc wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:12 am
Id tell capcom to eat shit and die. ANYONE can poke ANYWHERE in their PC's memory and use any tool to do it. AT WORSE, the user violates the TOS or EULA of the game (usually if it's online), but they can't target a trainer. They may threaten and write nasty letters, but if they tried to take me to court, I'd say "ill see your ass there"
Actually with the US "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act", the TOS is legally binding with prison sentences for any thing online; it's just never happened before, but the law is in place to do it (for the US).

Wikipedia.org - Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... manual.pdf
Well if it's an online game , and you're affecting the server, then yea.. that's considered hacking... but they can't do a thing if you're affecting a single player experience

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:18 pm
by TheyCallMeTim13
tallbearnc wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 8:04 pm
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Well if it's an online game , and you're affecting the server, then yea.. that's considered hacking... but they can't do a thing if you're affecting a single player experience
You might want to read the TOS and the actual laws involved. They aren't unlikely to care, but there are laws against it in the U.S.

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:32 pm
by Deepthroat
Sorry for reviving this, but lets be honest.

People were using trainers to cheat in Multi-Player, most of them came from tables in this same community.

Which is something even I don't tolerate, you're all free to mess with your games however you want, but moment you go Online you must obey the game rules (in this case cheating in MP is in clear breach of ToS, same applies for creating Cheats for MP).

People have been making it easy to cheat in Multi-Player (even in this same community, that claims that is not allowed) with Anti-Cheat bypasses and the such, which in most cases are uneeded for Single-Player (OFFLINE) modes.

I myself have my own health issues and I admit to use cheats (in SP), but you won't be see me going Online and ruining others experience, I also appreciate all the work, time and money STN has put into this community.

Re: Capcom took down fearlessrevolution MHW trainer

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:57 pm
by TheyCallMeTim13
Yeah; when I want script vs script, I go for SP. But MP is when you want to see how you stack up against other people, even if I tend to suck at it.