Future of FRF
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:08 pm
When i first started FearlessRevolution Forums as the place for cheat engine tables more than a year ago, i never imagined we would even survive this long and it was incredibly hard at the beginning with constant DDOS attacks and no funds but everyone helped and it worked until now. Here is what is going on
The move to xenforo has been expensive - licenses, themes, mods, the chat client - and a lot of that 1931 and 12587 helped tremendously with, wouldn't be possible without their help. The one thing nice about phpbb was everything involving it was free and needed extremely low upkeep. We had to move to another hosting as well.
Something else is happening since the last time i asked for help - we're losing our donators every month - and it's understandable. Nobody will keep donating for life or a year even and i don't expect them to. Look at our patreon page, it's barely helping with server costs. Next month, probably wouldn't It's getting expensive to maintain the site and the support is dropping.
Another thing that's happened is FRF has made its own enemies. You all know what happened to our discord twice now and the DDOS attacks that happen every now and then.
I can't afford it all alone, FRF is not a hobby site anymore and the costs are real. But i am not going to let it get to the point some dick attack it (the douche(s) who hates us will probably ddos us again after reading this) and not able to do anything about it or a couple more donators disappearing and not being able to afford the hosting next month.
I have a few options. Rely solely on donations which i realize having done for a year now is it's not a feasible option in the long term because people get sick of donating constantly or lose interest for whatever reason - the donations are also slowly seeming like less and less as the server costs increase, i can't imagine how it will be a in a year or more. I admit i was a bit naive thinking FRF could be the next Wikipedia running on donations lol. Or i can accept help from people who offered and compromise on the vision i have had for this place, monetize it or probably sell it to someone who can afford it without having to ask for these donations every few months.
I have dreaded this moment but it was bound to happen i guess as FRF gained momentum. You will start seeing ads on FRF soon - i don't know how much that will help though - somewhat?. It's helping run some sites we know, maybe frf too.
And i have to ask for donations again, check out our patreon page it's not good. It will be terrible next month or the month after that.
Donate and help fearlessrevolution survive!
You might have gotten some use out of FRF, help it ?
You can donate using this link
[Link]
Or Patreon if you use that
[Link]
Thank you
TL;DR version: FRF financial situation is bleak even so in the long term and i have decided to run ads. FRF also needs your help so please donate. Excuse the long text, i wanted to be open about the whole situation rather than just announcing a decision.
UPDATE: We're good for now. I have finally given up and set up ads, don't know how they're going to do yet but a couple people pledged to Patreon and Paypal so we're set for a couple months..
I might have to spam a donate button at the top in a few months if this doesn't work out.
Thanks to everyone who donated ?.
The move to xenforo has been expensive - licenses, themes, mods, the chat client - and a lot of that 1931 and 12587 helped tremendously with, wouldn't be possible without their help. The one thing nice about phpbb was everything involving it was free and needed extremely low upkeep. We had to move to another hosting as well.
Something else is happening since the last time i asked for help - we're losing our donators every month - and it's understandable. Nobody will keep donating for life or a year even and i don't expect them to. Look at our patreon page, it's barely helping with server costs. Next month, probably wouldn't It's getting expensive to maintain the site and the support is dropping.
Another thing that's happened is FRF has made its own enemies. You all know what happened to our discord twice now and the DDOS attacks that happen every now and then.
I can't afford it all alone, FRF is not a hobby site anymore and the costs are real. But i am not going to let it get to the point some dick attack it (the douche(s) who hates us will probably ddos us again after reading this) and not able to do anything about it or a couple more donators disappearing and not being able to afford the hosting next month.
I have a few options. Rely solely on donations which i realize having done for a year now is it's not a feasible option in the long term because people get sick of donating constantly or lose interest for whatever reason - the donations are also slowly seeming like less and less as the server costs increase, i can't imagine how it will be a in a year or more. I admit i was a bit naive thinking FRF could be the next Wikipedia running on donations lol. Or i can accept help from people who offered and compromise on the vision i have had for this place, monetize it or probably sell it to someone who can afford it without having to ask for these donations every few months.
I have dreaded this moment but it was bound to happen i guess as FRF gained momentum. You will start seeing ads on FRF soon - i don't know how much that will help though - somewhat?. It's helping run some sites we know, maybe frf too.
And i have to ask for donations again, check out our patreon page it's not good. It will be terrible next month or the month after that.
Donate and help fearlessrevolution survive!
You might have gotten some use out of FRF, help it ?
You can donate using this link
[Link]
Or Patreon if you use that
[Link]
Thank you
TL;DR version: FRF financial situation is bleak even so in the long term and i have decided to run ads. FRF also needs your help so please donate. Excuse the long text, i wanted to be open about the whole situation rather than just announcing a decision.
UPDATE: We're good for now. I have finally given up and set up ads, don't know how they're going to do yet but a couple people pledged to Patreon and Paypal so we're set for a couple months..
I might have to spam a donate button at the top in a few months if this doesn't work out.
Thanks to everyone who donated ?.