### Bioshock Remastered: Adam Guide

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**Sat May 25, 2019 8:53 pm**Edit: Could a Mod move this to the specific tutorials section. Not sure how I managed to post it here.

It's always bothered me that playing the "good guy" and saving little sisters left you short Adam to fully max out, even in the original un-patched versions.

This was made worse by harvesters not having enough Adam to max either.

For reference in the original un-patched version it would take 3455 Adam to max if buying everything at its lowest price. Updates that added plasmids/tonics added them at a cost of 1 each.

However they for some reason saw it fit to change the prices of those plasmids/tonics to 50/20 depending thus further increasing the amount of Adam needed.

All with out giving us any more Adam to work with! I consider it a failure of a remaster, and is what caused me to write this for myself and others who it bothered.

The math/solutions:

The amount gained From saving all little sisters totals 3080 Adam

The amount gained from harvesting all little sisters is 3360 Adam

A difference of 280 Adam

Max/Min saving all little sisters

4140 - 3080 = 1060 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all when first available

3715 - 3080 = 625 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all at their lowest prices

Max/Min harvesting all little sisters

4140 - 3360 = 780 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all when first available

3715 - 3360 = 355 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all at their lowest prices

However Health/Eve upgrades don't need to be a priority. Removing them changes the end results:

Health and Eve upgrades cost 80 * 8 = 640 * 2 (Health and Eve) = 1280 total

4140 - 1280 = 2860

3715 - 1280 = 2435

Max/Min saving all little sisters

2860 - 3080 = 220 Adam left over, 2/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 60 Adam left over

2435 - 3080 = 645 Adam left over, 8/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 5 Adam left over

Max/Min harvesting all little sisters

2860 - 3360 = 500 Adam left over, 6/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 20 Adam left over

2435 - 3360 = 925 Adam left over, 11/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 45 Adam left over

To get the rest of the Health/Eve upgrades:

Max/Min saving all little sisters

14 upgrades left * 80 each = 1120 - 60 = 1060 Adam needed

8 upgrades left * 80 each = 640 - 5 = 635 Adam needed

Max/Min harvesting all little sisters

10 upgrades left * 80 each = 800 - 20 = 780 Adam needed

5 upgrades left * 80 each = 400 - 45 = 355 Adam needed

Regardless there is no way to obtain everything (there should have been more Adam in the remaster to allow for this)

Even going as frugal as possible you still end up 355 Adam short.

Since each play style (save/harvest min/max) comes up short for Adam the missing amount needs to be added to the player.

Now for the math.

Option 3

Obviously you can't add a fraction of a single Adam, in this case it can be broken down further and distributed in non equal amounts that are still similar

Max/Min saving all little sisters

1060 ÷ 8 = 132.5 (132 Per Level) with 4 Adam left over to be included however (ex. 136,132,132,132,132,132,132,132 or 133,133,133,133,132,132,132,132)

625 ÷ 8 = 78.125 (78 Per Level) with 1 Adam left over to be included however

Max/Min harvest all little sisters

780 ÷ 8 = 97.5 (97 Per Level) with 4 Adam left over to be included however

355 ÷ 8 = 44.375 (44 Per Level) with 3 Adam left over to be included however

Option 3A is slightly different due there being only 7 gifts from little sisters

Max/Min saving all little sisters

1060 ÷ 7 = 151.4285714285714 (151 Per Gift) with 3 Adam left over to be included however

625 ÷ 7 = 89.28571428571429 (89 Per Gift) with 2 Adam left over to be included however

Option 4 is my own preferred method as it adds a modest increase in Adam that keeps the play style choices as balanced as can be.

This keeps harvesting a viable option for those wanting to boost to the max sooner and thus become stronger sooner.

Saving little sisters becomes a slower progression path that ends up being the most rewarding (as it should be)

It also follows somewhat the idea of the story of the tortoise and the hare (slow and steady wins the race) which seems fitting.

Max/Min saving all little sisters

1060 ÷ 21 = 50.47619047619048 (50 Per Little Sister) with 10 Adam left over to be included however

625 ÷ 21 = 29.76190476190476 (29 Per Little Sister) with 16 Adam left over to be included however

Max/Min harvest all little sisters

780 ÷ 21 = 37.14285714285714 (37 Per Little Sister) with 3 Adam left over to be included however

355 ÷ 21 = 16.9047619047619 (16 Per Little Sister) with 19 Adam left over to be included however

Using cheat engine, (and the table found here: viewtopic.php?t=8866 we can add the amount of Adam that we want to fit the play style we choose. I suggest using hotkeys to add Adam when necessary if using option 3/4.

Once I get some time I'll look at how the Adam multiplier works and what if effects (such as changing how much Adam is gained from gifts and little sisters or just little sisters.)

It's always bothered me that playing the "good guy" and saving little sisters left you short Adam to fully max out, even in the original un-patched versions.

This was made worse by harvesters not having enough Adam to max either.

For reference in the original un-patched version it would take 3455 Adam to max if buying everything at its lowest price. Updates that added plasmids/tonics added them at a cost of 1 each.

However they for some reason saw it fit to change the prices of those plasmids/tonics to 50/20 depending thus further increasing the amount of Adam needed.

All with out giving us any more Adam to work with! I consider it a failure of a remaster, and is what caused me to write this for myself and others who it bothered.

The math/solutions:

The amount gained From saving all little sisters totals 3080 Adam

The amount gained from harvesting all little sisters is 3360 Adam

A difference of 280 Adam

Max/Min saving all little sisters

4140 - 3080 = 1060 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all when first available

3715 - 3080 = 625 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all at their lowest prices

Max/Min harvesting all little sisters

4140 - 3360 = 780 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all when first available

3715 - 3360 = 355 additional Adam needed For max out when buying all at their lowest prices

However Health/Eve upgrades don't need to be a priority. Removing them changes the end results:

Health and Eve upgrades cost 80 * 8 = 640 * 2 (Health and Eve) = 1280 total

4140 - 1280 = 2860

3715 - 1280 = 2435

Max/Min saving all little sisters

2860 - 3080 = 220 Adam left over, 2/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 60 Adam left over

2435 - 3080 = 645 Adam left over, 8/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 5 Adam left over

Max/Min harvesting all little sisters

2860 - 3360 = 500 Adam left over, 6/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 20 Adam left over

2435 - 3360 = 925 Adam left over, 11/16 upgrades of Health/Eve = 45 Adam left over

To get the rest of the Health/Eve upgrades:

Max/Min saving all little sisters

14 upgrades left * 80 each = 1120 - 60 = 1060 Adam needed

8 upgrades left * 80 each = 640 - 5 = 635 Adam needed

Max/Min harvesting all little sisters

10 upgrades left * 80 each = 800 - 20 = 780 Adam needed

5 upgrades left * 80 each = 400 - 45 = 355 Adam needed

Regardless there is no way to obtain everything (there should have been more Adam in the remaster to allow for this)

Even going as frugal as possible you still end up 355 Adam short.

Since each play style (save/harvest min/max) comes up short for Adam the missing amount needs to be added to the player.

**Option 1**, add the amount of Adam that corresponds to the amount missing for the way you want to play at the first gathers garden.**Option 2**, add the amount of Adam that corresponds to the amount missing for the way you want to play once you have saved/harvested all little sisters.**Option 3**, add 1/8th of the Adam that corresponds to the amount missing for the way you want to play either at each new gathers garden or the start of a new level.**, add of the Adam to the 200 Adam gained each time you get a present from saving 3 little sisters.***Option 3A***Option 4**, increase the amount of Adam gained from a save/harvest for each little sister to correspond with the play style you want.Now for the math.

Option 3

Obviously you can't add a fraction of a single Adam, in this case it can be broken down further and distributed in non equal amounts that are still similar

Max/Min saving all little sisters

1060 ÷ 8 = 132.5 (132 Per Level) with 4 Adam left over to be included however (ex. 136,132,132,132,132,132,132,132 or 133,133,133,133,132,132,132,132)

625 ÷ 8 = 78.125 (78 Per Level) with 1 Adam left over to be included however

Max/Min harvest all little sisters

780 ÷ 8 = 97.5 (97 Per Level) with 4 Adam left over to be included however

355 ÷ 8 = 44.375 (44 Per Level) with 3 Adam left over to be included however

Option 3A is slightly different due there being only 7 gifts from little sisters

Max/Min saving all little sisters

1060 ÷ 7 = 151.4285714285714 (151 Per Gift) with 3 Adam left over to be included however

625 ÷ 7 = 89.28571428571429 (89 Per Gift) with 2 Adam left over to be included however

Option 4 is my own preferred method as it adds a modest increase in Adam that keeps the play style choices as balanced as can be.

This keeps harvesting a viable option for those wanting to boost to the max sooner and thus become stronger sooner.

Saving little sisters becomes a slower progression path that ends up being the most rewarding (as it should be)

It also follows somewhat the idea of the story of the tortoise and the hare (slow and steady wins the race) which seems fitting.

Max/Min saving all little sisters

1060 ÷ 21 = 50.47619047619048 (50 Per Little Sister) with 10 Adam left over to be included however

625 ÷ 21 = 29.76190476190476 (29 Per Little Sister) with 16 Adam left over to be included however

Max/Min harvest all little sisters

780 ÷ 21 = 37.14285714285714 (37 Per Little Sister) with 3 Adam left over to be included however

355 ÷ 21 = 16.9047619047619 (16 Per Little Sister) with 19 Adam left over to be included however

Using cheat engine, (and the table found here: viewtopic.php?t=8866 we can add the amount of Adam that we want to fit the play style we choose. I suggest using hotkeys to add Adam when necessary if using option 3/4.

Once I get some time I'll look at how the Adam multiplier works and what if effects (such as changing how much Adam is gained from gifts and little sisters or just little sisters.)