Paid trainers

May 19, 2017
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STN post_id=9128 time=1495281874 user_id=48 said:
NotPWizard post_id=9084 time=1495245771 user_id=5222 said:
I'm just following BooBoo's lead here. I mean if it's allowed for him/her then it should be allowed for everyone, correct?
First off, please use your real user, it's not banned. I have deleted all your trainer posts because they offer nothing to the user and just redirect to your site. BooBoo's trainers offer a lot of cheats for free, some trainers are also completely free. You should have asked me first or discussed it here before assuming things.

[*]When posting a "Demo" trainer for a shooter the minimum feature must include infinite health if the full trainer has that as well. Lacking that option will get your trainer deleted
BTW, if you’re going to enforce your policies, then you should enforce it equally for everyone. According to these rules if the premium trainer contains infinite health then the free trainer has to contain that as well. DDS/BooBoo’s trainer for The Surge does not meet this criteria:

http://ddstrainers.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-surge-trainer.html

and seeing as how you commented on the trainer in his/her thread, you saw it and know that it didn’t abide by the rules that only seem to apply to us.

So, please make it clear what the REAL rules are and who they do and do not apply to.
 

BooBoo

Expert Cheater
Fearless Donors
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#22
NotPWizard post_id=9154 time=1495292020 user_id=5222 said:
STN post_id=9128 time=1495281874 user_id=48 said:
NotPWizard post_id=9084 time=1495245771 user_id=5222 said:
I'm just following BooBoo's lead here. I mean if it's allowed for him/her then it should be allowed for everyone, correct?
First off, please use your real user, it's not banned. I have deleted all your trainer posts because they offer nothing to the user and just redirect to your site. BooBoo's trainers offer a lot of cheats for free, some trainers are also completely free. You should have asked me first or discussed it here before assuming things.

[*]When posting a "Demo" trainer for a shooter the minimum feature must include infinite health if the full trainer has that as well. Lacking that option will get your trainer deleted
BTW, if you’re going to enforce your policies, then you should enforce it equally for everyone. According to these rules if the premium trainer contains infinite health then the free trainer has to contain that as well. DDS/BooBoo’s trainer for The Surge does not meet this criteria:

http://ddstrainers.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-surge-trainer.html

and seeing as how you commented on the trainer in his/her thread, you saw it and know that it didn’t abide by the rules that only seem to apply to us.

So, please make it clear what the REAL rules are and who they do and do not apply to.
The user can get Infinite health by using the Unlimited HP Injections. which is free. Just saying super sayjan. ;)
 
May 19, 2017
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#23
Users can get infinite health or anything else they want using our FREE CoSMOS gamehacking tool. So, does that count too?
 
Apr 19, 2017
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@BooBoo: But that would mean that if a free trainer would do anything regarding health (limited health to 1%, refills health every 30 minutes) its valid to the rules because you can say "They can get infinite health... as a different and worser alternative".

And what is also missing is the direct link according to the rules STN posted as far as I can see, because your "Downloadn-Link" only links to your website which is not a direct link.
Things like these always starts in endless discussions.

I would suggest STN put up some rules (or choose to take the existing) and then these rules apply to everyone including CH and BooBoo and everyone else.
 
May 19, 2017
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#25
I think it's becoming clear that the rules around here tend to "bend" around everyone with the exception of a certain website.
 

STN

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I didn't check the individual cheats but i did saw he provided a few for free. I have been very lax on the rules because it's the best we have got. He also didn't abuse this place, i haven't had to PM him once asking to change anything because he or she's been considerate to this community and has actually helped both with cheats and donations.

The main point you're missing here is this isn't CEF getting a millions hits but an unknown website and like zycamzip said ranking for jackshit and full of leechers. If i had enforced the rules (which i was responsible for back in 2014 to stop MAF from abusing CEF) trainers section would be empty and you wouldn't be here Chris.

So please don't lecture me on rules or what i need to do. Here, i am trying to think of ways to accommodate both paid and free trainers when i could go the easiest route and just stop this non-sense or simply say you are not welcome here. Nobody was complaining when BooBoo was posting but as soon as you did, i wake up to an apocalypse . You certainly don't "need" the traffic but FRF and the people posting their trainers here do and i am not going to piss off the community here if they don't want you here. You clearly showed earlier today how you can overshadow other's trainers so you can't get an equal treatment, nevermind the paid trainer makers, the people who make free ones won't even stand a chance.

Like i said, this issue is being discussed. Instead of further derailing this thread and criticizing me, have some patience.
 
May 19, 2017
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#27
I have all the patience in the world. If the users here don't want me around, I'll be happy to leave. I'm not trying to stir anything up, simply pointing out that I was berated for apparently not reading and following the rules with my posts, yet others aren't subject to the same ruleset. It's not like the original CE community or anyone else on this forum has ever treated us with much respect despite doing more for the "free/leechers" than most other sites. Unfortunately I'm the one that could have provided revenue to pay your monthly server costs 10X over where I'm guessing that folks like BooBoo and the thousands of other non-donating members can/will not.
 

hedop

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Mar 17, 2017
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Lol he is stealthing now. Going into table subsection and posting stuff like this:
NotPWizard post_id=9161 time=1495293357 user_id=5222 said:
I personally am just using a trainer with the following options:

Invincible Team
Unlimited Actions/Ignore Skill Cooldown
Add Resources (DLC/Components/Gemstones/Glimmer)
Unlock All Locations
Add Consumables
Unlock All Perks
Unlimited Moves
Unlimited Blitz

No links. I'm sure you guys can find it if you look hard enough.
Real class act that fella.
 
Apr 19, 2017
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#29
Its not better if you start bitching at hijm @hedop. If he isn't violating a rule just ignore him. God.. I'm missing CE forum and Dark Byte's moderation already...
 
May 19, 2017
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#30
You seriously just pulled about 80% of that right out of your ass. Oh, and likely killed any chance of me helping your awesome community that can't even manage to support your awesome tables and trainers with a paltry $75/month. We have individual users that DONATE more than that to us PER MONTH, ON TOP of their $100 lifetime membership. So, I'm pretty sure THAT says something.
 

hedop

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Mar 17, 2017
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He stealth promoted again:
NotPWizard post_id=9240 time=1495367339 user_id=5222 said:
I'm pretty sure I saw a +21 trainer for v1.03 64-BIT around somewhere. Can't recall the name of the site.
 
May 19, 2017
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Yes, I am so stealthy. Someone in your community asked for a 64-bit version of cheats for 1.03 of the game in which this site has neither. I mentioned that there is an alternative available. I didn't link a site, mention a source or anything that would break the rules that seem to be pick and choose depending on the user.
 

hedop

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Mar 17, 2017
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NotPWizard post_id=9243 time=1495369722 user_id=5222 said:
Yes, I am so stealthy. Someone in your community asked for a 64-bit version of cheats for 1.03 of the game in which this site has neither. I mentioned that there is an alternative available. I didn't link a site, mention a source or anything that would break the rules that seem to be pick and choose depending on the user.
Dude just please go away. That guy asked for an update on a table that was basically just posted with the patch being out for less than a couple of hours. I told you yesterday. It's a table thread. Not a trainer thread. For all I care post that stuff in the trainer section, see how the trainer makers treat you. It's just shitty behviour. You told STN yesterday you could wait for a decision and you told me yesterday in the other thread that you will leave the community, yet here you are again promoting and justifying your shitty behaviour. Just go away already.
 
May 19, 2017
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NP. When your site folds because STN is left holding the bill and putting time, money and resources into a project that people like yourself don't financially support and all of your users end up at CH anyway, you can look back at when I offered to help but was told to piss off.

STN and RaDeX know how to reach me should they wish to speak for themselves instead of allowing people like yourself and SunBeam represent the entire community (which, PS, many are already premium subscribers at our site - feel free to check the memberlist). They both know that I never said anything derogatory about the people making cheats, providing tables or trainers here.
 

hedop

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Mar 17, 2017
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NotPWizard post_id=9248 time=1495372065 user_id=5222 said:
NP. When your site folds because STN is left holding the bill and putting time, money and resources into a project that people like yourself don't financially support and all of your users end up at CH anyway, you can look back at when I offered to help but was told to piss off.

STN and RaDeX know how to reach me should they wish to speak for themselves instead of allowing people like yourself and SunBeam represent the entire community (which, PS, many are already premium subscribers at our site - feel free to check the memberlist). They both know that I never said anything derogatory about the people making cheats, providing tables or trainers here.
That is their decision. No one ever said people who are members here couldn't be members on CH or wherever really. Why the hell are you even trying something like that man? It's not a war. Nobody here is working towards blasting CH out of existence or whatever. Do your thing. But don't do it here without the big wigs having decided whether you can or you can not and what rules apply for you and yours. You didn't. You told STN:

"I have all the patience in the world. If the users here don't want me around, I'll be happy to leave." Yet you didn't wait for a decision did you? Just went ahead and stealth advertised your trainers anyway instead of waiting it out.

You also said to me:

"I'll go now. You guys enjoy spinning your wheels."

Yet here you are, debating the merits of your conduct, still stealth advertising. That is the third time now that you said you will go and leave us poor people to suffer and the site crash because only through your help can this site exist in the future.

You know what I think? I think the whole Ddos Attack on CE was your guys doing. I think you Ddosed the site half to death, I think you put the feds on CE and I think you guys are behind Ddosing this site. All that shit seems mighty shady to me. Why even bother supporting this shitty little shack of a site that makes no money, offers stuff for free that you guys monetize, isn't even among the first google search results, is ad free, has no other income. What's the play here? Underestimated the resilience and that people would reform the site and keep going after your brought DB to his knees? Now you tried it here but since the site is better protected you can't and now you try to undermine it from within by spamming around or trying to force your way in via money?

That's a fucking powerplay if ever I saw one. If STN would agree to a business deal with you, all the site data would be open to you guys. Everything, because there would need to be a formal contract. Meaning you guys get everything on this site, on the admins, on the site owner, meaning you are again in a position to call in the feds to take action against the site and Ddos the shit out of it.

Well played. Now go back to where you came from.
 

STN

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#36
Okay here we go. First off
Klempnermeister post_id=9180 time=1495301842 user_id=3010 said:
Its not better if you start bitching at hijm @hedop. If he isn't violating a rule just ignore him. God.. I'm missing CE forum and Dark Byte's moderation already...
Something isn't right about you, you don't contribute or give a crap about this place for a month you're registered here, then all of a sudden you're very concerned about the rules of this place and then you don't like how i run things and miss CEF? I don't see you have a profile at CEF either so what do you know how things are there.

But since you like Dark Byte's way of running things, i will give you that treatment :) You would get banned for speaking against staff there, hell you get banned "for fun" by some of the mods there.

Now to the real issue at hand.

@Pwizard: I have discussed this in length with people who matter here and it's very clear to us that the community doesn't want you here. I appreciate your offer, really do and you're right you can offer more than we can get from donations but ultimately, you're here because of the community and i am not going to do something that they don't want because you're not going to be here if they leave, would you?. It is nothing personal, the community doesn't want you...you must have gotten some idea from the posts of people here.

I don't see the place as folding anytime soon, the analytics show half the traffic here is returning visitors. It will fold if someone DDOSes and i don't have the money to pay but twice now, people have helped me upgrade and pay for a better server. It's not 74$ by the way, it's 199$/month and we achieved that goal within hours this month plus change.

Sunbeam and hedop has said what i was going to say next.

BooBoo and other people can post the way they want to and the rules i posted earlier are a guideline and we will decide if someone is abusing them/issue warns/bans accordingly. Dark Byte was lax on his rules too and didn't always enforce it in trainers section for one simple reason, rules are meant to stop people from abusing the place, as long as no one abuses them you can relax. Use your common sense, help the community and you will be fine.

I expect this thread to end now, everyone had their say and made their point and it's been decided how things will be going forward.

Lets all go back to making and using cheats!.
 

hedop

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Mar 17, 2017
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Yeah let's go cheaters, let's go!
 
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