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H4x0rBattie said:
...The definition of scam is something else therefore; please do not mention my tool and scam in same sentence unless you're here to slander....
What exactly is this "something else", please define "scam" then.

Your charging money for source code and are saying it has features it doesn't actually have. By definition that's "false advertising", and thus a scam, or swindle if you prefer. And there is clear case law in the US in regards to this, and specifically with software features (you can actually be charged/sued for "false advertising" in the US, without someone even buying the product). And so where you're getting "slander" is beyond me, because again there's clear case law in regards to slander and false advertising; and falsely clamming "slander" is a "slader us actuation" and thus slander in itself (some good meta humor here). And I don't think you can actually "slander" an object, only people or companies (not really sure about this, would have to look at case law).

[wiki]False advertising[/wiki]
scam
/skam/
noun INFORMAL
noun: scam; plural noun: scams
1.
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
"an insurance scam"
synonyms: fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick; More
verb
verb: scam; 3rd person present: scams; past tense: scammed; past participle: scammed; gerund or present participle: scamming
1.
swindle.
"a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings"
synonyms: swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More
swin·dle
/ˈswindl/
verb
verb: swindle; 3rd person present: swindles; past tense: swindled; past participle: swindled; gerund or present participle: swindling
1.
use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions.
"a businessman swindled investors out of millions of dollars"
obtain (money) fraudulently.
"he was said to have swindled $62.5 million from the pension fund"
synonyms: defraud, cheat, trick, dupe, deceive, fool, hoax, hoodwink, bamboozle; More
noun
noun: swindle; plural noun: swindles
1.
a fraudulent scheme or action.
"he is mixed up in a $10 million insurance swindle"
synonyms: fraud, trick, deception, deceit, cheat, sham, artifice, ruse, dodge, racket, wile; More
slander verb
slan·der | \ˈslan-dər \
slandered; slandering\ˈslan-d(ə-)riŋ \
Definition of slander (Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb

: to utter slander against : DEFAME
slander noun
Definition of slander (Entry 2 of 2)
1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation
2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person
So just to be clear, YOUR TOOL APPEARS TO BE A SCAM. But as already said, you can fix this really easily, just make your "documentation" reflect the actual tool and not the planed [future] tool.

EDIT:
Don't get me wrong, it's a neat tool and thanks for sharing the program freely; but your basically looking at CE and then adding the features it already has then just doing it differently and acting as if you invented it. But I guess you could say your a fan of Eddison, he's often credited with things he never did; most people think he invented the lightbulb even though he only patented what a staff member came up with for a working filament.
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And you're doing all this on forums centered around CE, just seems like preaching Islam to Catholics; it's not ever going to go well.
 
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Frenchie said:
I think the first tool was Cheat' o Matic, followed by WIn Hack, etc.

WIn Hack ? Never heard of it.
 
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H4x0rBattie

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Hi. I've released v109: https://overlayhack.com/cheat-tool-set#252

At the writing time of the code and description I did not quite understand what a "VEH" debugger meant by. I've got a "wisdom" from above ...

I've corrected feature description on the official site. The both versions of the debuggers are using HWBP's for a speed ...

Is not that a little exaggeration to make the whole software a "scam" for such a small case? In the forum where everyone else is hypocritical ...
Don't get me wrong, it's a neat tool and thanks for sharing the program freely; but your basically looking at CE and then adding the features it already has then just doing it differently and acting as if you invented it
I am looking at CE because it missed some features I needed. Have a look at version 1.09 "About" ...

Did you want to see where this program came from? Or did not you understand why it came from? For this I did not released the tutorials in this forum ...

Questions for "wise men":

From whom did the first person in this planet got the "wisdom"?

Does the forest know that it exists? Why do you just read this, you know that you are there?

What makes the tiger do the same as it does?

The time I spent with this unnecessary program made me publish it to you ...

When and if everything comes ready ...

TV kills all this thinking. Many other things too.

This is not the whole truth but that's all I had to share right now.
 
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H4x0rBattie said:
...Did you want to see where this program came from? Or did not you understand why it came from?...
Your grammar is so bad here I really have no idea what you're asking; are you asking if I know why your tool came about; if so, no I'm not a mind reader.

H4x0rBattie said:
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From whom did the first person in this planet got the "wisdom"?...
Depends on how you define the English word "wisdom"; basically your asking a very subjective question, these are questions you're supposed to think about but never really answer.

H4x0rBattie said:
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Does the forest know that it exists?...
Depends on what counts as a "forest", if it includes sentient animals/creatures (like people) then sure.

H4x0rBattie said:
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...Why do you just read this...
I really don't know, but I was asking the same thing; only I added the words "bull shit".

H4x0rBattie said:
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What makes the tiger do the same as it does?
...
Depend on how you define "same", but this starts a conversation about nature vs nurture. But I don't think starting a conversation was your intention, just more BS subjective questions.

H4x0rBattie said:
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The time I spent with this unnecessary program made me publish it to you ...

When and if everything comes ready ...

TV kills all this thinking. Many other things too.

This is not the whole truth but that's all I had to share right now.
Now you're just making random statements. Video killed the radio star. I like big butts and I can not lie.


"Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace."
-- Dalai Lama

"Be master of mind rather than mastered by mind."
 
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I've released v1.11: https://overlayhack.com/cheat-tool-set#630

Changelog:

Memory editor: Added "Modify the value as double value"
Debug viewer: Added support for double value scans

Debugger: Fixed an issue with GUI when items are added to list

Settings: Added "Use this directory for result files"

Dump strings:

Remove new line characters from a string
Added "Match case".

PS.

The professional version will soon be available under a different name. It's free but requires registration.
 
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What 'other forum' are we talking about? You keep mentioning this, but have not once linked to it.
 
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The official site is mentioned in the first post.

I've released v1.12 including the professional version.

For 112: https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/ae5cb52382c0cc1576270eb980ab06046efd16d19f05f04e355eb329f97f0b31/detection

Changelog: https://overlayhack.com/cheat-tool-set#714

The disassembler requires a lot more work but the does the job in terms of generating signatures. As far I tested the competition. Most of the other plugins failed for code that is subject to relocation in future game updates.
 
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SunBeam said:
What 'other forum' are we talking about? You keep mentioning this, but have not once linked to it.
https://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=607895
 
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Hi. I've just released v1.15: https://overlayhack.com/cheat-tool-set#779

Something like this: https://i.imgur.com/T1HNkq8.mp4
 
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Excellent post. Thank you. Keep up :D
 
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Smitashinde said:
Excellent post. Thank you. Keep up :D
I've just released v1.16. The changes are as follows: https://overlayhack.com/cheat-tool-set#839 I use exactly the same version as I just released.

It's downright idiotic to say you don't like source code because the author doesn't code it the same way as you do. Because of this, I haven't published the source code. The main reason the source is heavily obfuscated.

You work on something for over two and a half years, and then it's smart to tell you to change your A to B without any benefits.
 
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I would never install a program from an unknown entity who is hiding their source code when there are open-source trustworthy programs that already exist with similar functionality.
 
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The time to what I have used only the so-called "bread-code" is at least worth of 10k (the tool is a good 2.5+ years of work) And you're asking for a pasta without even saying Hi or Thx.

How you can expect me to have time to release the source code for you?

Luckily I opened a bottle of booze so I had time to reply to post like yours.

The upcoming v1.17 has functionality comparable to IDA Pro and it does it all many times faster ...

You did not had enough time to say "Hi" or "Thx". Therefore I will neither have time to show you exactly what I am talking about.

And what comes to your "trustworthy" programs. I would start with Windows 10 features, "we" asks you to send all what you do including your browsing history to Microsoft ... "We" asks you to put your files (the source code like this in their cloud). That's so much for your "trustworthy" programs.

You are using an operating system that does all this. How can you ask such a program author whose program does not even modify the registry?

How about your cellphone? You've even less idea ...

PS.

The past (3) months i've been coding the tool almost every day as much I can (after my part-time daily job ended) Sometimes even a 12 hours/day. I've no time in the future for replies like this. No personal offense though. This is a general advice.

The tool has been clean of spywares/trojans since the day one. Have a look at Softpedia. Maybe in the future I'll release the source code for the main view.

The release of the source code is in a "maybe" state because of: Accept - Living For Tonight

You don't know what tomorrow will bring though you think so. This is a basic wisdom.
 
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H4x0rBattie said:
The time to what I have used only the so-called "bread-code" is at least worth of 10k (the tool is a good 2.5+ years of work)
I never argued that your tool has no value. That was never my point. I said that I (and likely most people) would not choose to pay for a product that is very similar to a free product, especially when the free product is open-source while the paid product is not.
H4x0rBattie said:
And you're asking for a pasta without even saying Hi or Thx.
I'm not hungry. And I didn't realize you required people to greet you when responding to your post in a public forum.
H4x0rBattie said:
How you can expect me to have time to release the source code for you?
I mean, there are literally websites that were built around this. You can check out github.com and/or sourceforge.net. Cheat Engine has a github repository.
H4x0rBattie said:
Luckily I opened a bottle of booze so I had time to reply to post like yours.
How do you have more time to reply to someone just because you opened a beer? I would think you would have less time to reply because now you have something to drink.
H4x0rBattie said:
The upcoming v1.17 has functionality comparable to IDA Pro and it does it all many times faster ...
Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know and this really wasn't relevant to what I said.
H4x0rBattie said:
You did not had enough time to say "Hi" or "Thx". Therefore I will neither have time to show you exactly what I am talking about.
I had time to say both things. It's neither required nor necessary to greet someone in a public forum. I didn't say thank you because you didn't say or do anything that caused me to be thankful. Now, if you had responded with a well articulated and insightful comment I would probably have said thank you. You didn't though, so now I suppose we're both dissappointed.
H4x0rBattie said:
And what comes to your "trustworthy" programs. I would start with Windows 10 features, "we" asks you to send all what you do including your browsing history to Microsoft ... "We" asks you to put your files (the source code like this in their cloud). That's so much for your "trustworthy" programs.

You are using an operating system that does all this. How can you ask such a program author whose program does not even modify the registry?

How about your cellphone? You've even less idea ...
This literally has nothing to do with anything we're talking about. Your closed-source commercial product is not comparable to an OS, nor has your product/company/brand proven to be of value. Microsoft, Apple, Google... these companies have actually done things that were impressive and astonishing causing people to take notice and support them. You've mimicked a free product and slapped a price tag on it. I'm not saying that to be insulting, but I do want to stress that your analogy is terrible because you compared yourself to companies who are way out of your league.
H4x0rBattie said:
PS.

The past (3) months i've been coding the tool almost every day as much I can (after my part-time daily job ended) Sometimes even a 12 hours/day. I've no time in the future for replies like this. No personal offense though. This is a general advice.
You didn't give any advice. You just let us know details of your life that nobody asked about.
H4x0rBattie said:
The tool has been clean of spywares/trojans since the day one. Have a look at Softpedia. Maybe in the future I'll release the source code for the main view.
Cheat Engine is clear of spyware/trojans. It is also free and open-source. And it does virtually everything that your product does.
H4x0rBattie said:
The release of the source code is in a "maybe" state because of: Accept - Living For Tonight
I've never said you have to release your source code. The thesis of my comment was that you will probably find difficulty in sharing your tool if you're going to simultaneously charge for it and keep it closed-source since there are free open-source tools that do virtually the same thing.
H4x0rBattie said:
You don't know what tomorrow will bring though you think so. This is a basic wisdom.
I never said that I thought I knew what tomorrow would bring.
 
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Even some of the worst tools have source codes shared, perhaps people might add something new to the table, you should license your software, then paste the code, or release some free demo.Even the most advanced softwares are shared free to use.So, how can we tell the difference, when all is just a bunch of fairytales!

I, from all, i prefer GHIDRA, it's the most advanced software in hacking/cracking/by-pass and perhaps it can even make me breakfast, after that i prefer CE, now leaving jokes aside, they also added a free code for GHIDRA, since it's theirs..now the question is, the code is yours?I don't think, so why spamming and advertising your "software" and why not making it live, if you have "cojones"?

I, if i were you, i would post the code, hire 2-3 experienced dudes or dudettes, to analize and see what's missing, how can it be improved and whatnot...but instead you spam saying is the whatever you may call it.

I'm a girl, so i'll say it like this, "you say you have a big dick, well show it once and for all" it's a different type of expression, you get the idea of what i meant!I didn't meant to be disrespectful, now all this spam drove my tits out!

So next time paste some free stuff, so if people might consider it might worth it then they can go for premium or whatever!That's how you will earn respect and admiration and most of all, money!
 
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This is the v1.17: https://youtu.be/zrUvtsg9BKk after A 2.5 years of work. The tool is a work in progress. Is not CE has been developed for over a 18 years? However though, this is not a dick measuring contest. But my questions are as follows:

If the software does not suit to you, then I would just move on to next better topic on this forum.

1) How I can "hire" some coders with a zero budget!? Is not CE development also based on the donations and/or the sponsors money!?

2) The queen is also used to getting everything on a silver plate. No time to say a "Hi" or "Thx". If you're girl. My tip to you is this:

If your kids will be thinking like this: "Just always give to me everything I want at right the moment ..." And if you did, based on the answers on this thread.

The tool works for my use. And I desired to release it for you too ... If it's not enough. Then simply use CE source and make your owns.

If the government has set itself the goal of cracking everything down. So what can such a party ever demand from its citizens? Hypocritically.

Like the CE rules. HAH! I also developed my own nucler missile to be launched. But I cannot launch it to a certain country. But to your country I can ...

About the politics (read bullshit most of you're entitled to or whatsover BS that's) ...

One of the worst cancers in the world are just the governments. The oppressors of the poor and as well as the biggest fuckers in the world most of them are. So why would some like you did make them bigger than they are? Because of the jacket!? Those entities are laughing on us!

Didn't those governments just wager on your money but still you wanted to praise them!?

The tool of mine is still a free tool made by a zero budget! And I've just released the tool also on UC forums. They require the source code for analysis (that's an unobfuscated executable) before they'll approve.

Have you seen someone else and/or any other forum releasing the new versions of the software? The code is not mine!? LOL.
 
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H4x0rBattie said:
This is the v1.17: https://youtu.be/zrUvtsg9BKk after A 2.5 years of work. The tool is a work in progress. Is not CE has been developed for over a 18 years? However though, this is not a dick measuring contest. But my questions are as follows:

If the software does not suit to you, then I would just move on to next better topic on this forum.

1) How I can "hire" some coders with a zero budget!? Is not CE development also based on the donations and/or the sponsors money!?

2) The queen is also used to getting everything on a silver plate. No time to say a "Hi" or "Thx". If you're girl. My tip to you is this:

If your kids will be thinking like this: "Just always give to me everything I want at right the moment ..." And if you did, based on the answers on this thread.

The tool works for my use. And I desired to release it for you too ... If it's not enough. Then simply use CE source and make your owns.

If the government has set itself the goal of cracking everything down. So what can such a party ever demand from its citizens? Hypocritically.

Like the CE rules. HAH! I also developed my own nucler missile to be launched. But I cannot launch it to a certain country. But to your country I can ...

About the politics (read bullshit most of you're entitled to or whatsover BS that's) ...

One of the worst cancers in the world are just the governments. The oppressors of the poor and as well as the biggest fuckers in the world most of them are. So why would some like you did make them bigger than they are? Because of the jacket!? Those entities are laughing on us!

Didn't those governments just wager on your money but still you wanted to praise them!?

The tool of mine is still a free tool made by a zero budget! And I've just released the tool also on UC forums. They require the source code for analysis (that's an unobfuscated executable) before they'll approve.

Have you seen someone else and/or any other forum releasing the new versions of the software? The code is not mine!? LOL.
Everything ok dude?
 
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When Sunbeam told you to expect heavy criticism, he wasn't joking. You definitely took them too personally. I think if you were a bit more humble, things would have gone in a complete different direction.
 
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lampuiho said:
When Sunbeam told you to expect heavy criticism, he wasn't joking.
Honestly it is his own fault:

1. (and most important) he releases a CLOSED software in competition to an open source software, in a forum where everyone is using this open source software. And his CLOSED software is ages behind the open source software with literally everything. There isn't one thing that makes it really unique or worth to try.
2. He tried to sell the source code
3. He forces user to register on his site where its also selling multiplayer cheats
4. He lied about his VEH debugger which is a plain windows debugger
5. He reacts on every kind of criticism the same by saying he don't care, he spend much time on it etc.pp. instead of taking the feedback and work with it.

I think nobody here has a problem with this tool itself rather the way its released. And the post-release reaction does not make it any better. Guess we will see how this end.
 
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With the all respects. CE is a standard in game hacking scene BUT the free IDE you must use for the Pascal source of CE is something like 10-20 years behind of VS2017 for obvious reasons.

A decade behind of CE? I do not think so that CE includes a similar memory viewer.
You use CE for whatever you need. I use my tool for what CE did not offer.

The background music. I've no idea how it ended up there. Sometimes I can end up drinkinh over a littler of vodka in less than do days.

I will bother updating the video after the next patch.

An argues you made are waste of my energy and time.

1) I already posted un obfuscated exe on UC forums. But the tool is still awaiting for approval.

2) I already wrote that I've spent most of my free time on the tool for over 2.5+ years. I can post the full source for main view in the future but because of slanderers and unthankful people. The full source with comments will not be available.

3) I remember recently adding a "link" to a download on my site (without the need to register) provided you had the time to read the first post on the official site.

4) At the time I wrote the description, I did not understood the difference. Now I do. I've been coding a VEH debugger in C++ for a week. It is almost finished.

A simple "Hi" or "Thank you" does a lot. But you seem to have more time for slandering.

5) Dark Byte has spent over 18 years of his time for CE. Do you think you can write an equivalent tool in a weekend?

This forum is about to start being filled with kids who claim I haven't coded my program.
 
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